"Nordic Kelly" 27" Mensur 8 Saiter

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Hallo liebes Forum,

ich bin nun schon seit einiger Zeit in Internationalen Foren unterwegs und ich baue gerade zusammen mit einer netten Foren-Bekanntschaft eine Customgitarre, habe aber bis jetzt nur eben das Internationale Forum mit Bildern etc. versorgt.
Doch ich bin der Meinung, dass es euch vlt. auch interessiert, besonders da 8 Saiter hier ja eine Rarität sind!
Ich lasse den Post vorerst in Englisch, ich glaube man kann auch so alles gut erkennen, wenn Fragen zu Begriffen oder Ähnliches auftauchen, dann fragt einfach!

Hier der 1. Post, mit Updates etc.


Foreword

Hey guy´s,
i need a new baby with more then 6 Strings...first i wanted to buy an Agile but...it is quite expensive with shipping and that stuff...and not THAT unique.
I´m a big fan of Pat Hufschmid´s Designs but he is too expensive (but fair) for a student.
Sooo i read the forum every day since i noticed flo´s 8 String build and i was in love with his natural design instantly. But the best thing about it is that he is from Germany, too! Ohhh yeah, my Guitar will be a "bäppler"

Because he is a student, too it will be a long-timed project, but i think we will build a (my) dreamguitar.


Planing the specs!

I LOOOOVE the Jackson Kelly Design. It´s just the shit. So it will be (of course) a Kelly Body shape (or something quite similar).
Other Specs as followed:


  • Jackson Kelly Bodyshape
  • Neckthru
  • Natural Look (oil or wax)
  • 8 String
  • (reversed headstock) -retired
  • Seymour Duncan Blackout
  • Hipshot Hardware
Our actual Designplan is this one:



You can see that the highlight will be a stripe of royal white ebony, the rest of the design (hopefully) will be natural dark oiled or waxed as the Hufschmids.
The headstock is reversed, don´t know if 7 in line or 7+1 or 6+2...we will see.

THE ACTUAL HEADSTOCK IS INDEED A COPY OF HUFSCHMID´S DESIGN, IT´S NOT FINAL.
I didn´t asked Huf yet, but if we reach the step to build the headstock i will ask him of course.
Sorry Pat if this is against your will, if it is, please tell me and I will replace the headstock in the design idea
with an other one.

NEW DESIGN 01.11.2009


So i´ve got some stuff to discuss:

1. 7 or 8 String --It´s a 8!
2. Scale -- 27"
3. Woodchoice --done
4. Other


1. 7 or 8 String OH MY GOD, IT`s A 8 STRING!
I´m not sure if i need 8 Strings...i defenitly need the B, but the F#?
The next problem is that it depends on dreierguitars if he can build me such a Fingerboard. AND the humbuckers are epic expensive. I thought about installing 1x 6 String humbucker at the bridge for the low Strings and 1x 6 String humbucker at the neck for the high strings. I think that would be pretty cool (and cheaper)
If 7 Strings the hardware would be much cheaper and i would buy a 7 String blackout.

IT´s a 8!


2. Scale 27"
If 7 Strings i prefer Agile baritone 27"...sounds nice and is not too long.
If 8 Strings maybe these 28,whateva...or?
I don´t know if i can handle fanned frets and i don´t think dreier can build it.

3. Woodchoice
The royal white ebony is the main theme, this one will stay.
But i´m not sure about the rest...Pat is not telling me his secret of oiling the mahagony so epic dark and maybe other darker woods are a better choice for the body? Walnut looks very epic...or Macassar Ebony but that is very expensive. Please discuss the woodchoice it´s just a product of reading maaany building threads.
The Fingerboard will (hopefully) be Ziricote...i really like the look of it.
But maybe Macassar Ebony is a better choice here, too?
Can you tell me some good woodshops?


Fingerboard:
Ziricote 24 Frets, 27"



FINISHED!




Neckwood, 5pcs. :
Maple-Wenge-Royal white ebony-Wenge-Maple


I just ordered the wood, PICS!

A BIIIIG piece of Wenge for the neck (and many other necks of flo i think )


And 2 pieces of Khaya Mahagony for the bodywings!



Here is a preview of the Royal white Ebony, but i called them and they will send me pics of the most epic pieces so we can choose :)







4. Other
Hardware colour black or gold?
I think gold would match to the natur look.

The Sidedots will be rune´s of the vikings, a great idea of flo who used these IIX signs for his 8 String.

Dreier will build my Fingerboard, here is his link
www.dreier-gitarren.de

I think about asking a friendly blacksmith creating me some metalparts for the finish...inspired by this one:
Amfisound tuotesivu

The finish of the guitar will maybe be made by a woodartist...he uses chainsaws and stuff creating sculputers...so that the bodyshape/carving will look "old and handmade by norns", too. I also think about some cool image carvings...but it will take a long time from now to then.
 
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UPDATE Friday 28 of May

After a long long time we´re now able to present you the first pics of the building process:


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the wood is ready



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pics of the neck-building-process



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building the body




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body+neck, wet




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the awesome headstock

So, hope you like the pics `cause i do, and i can´t wait to see it finished




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So, musste es in einen DoppelPost packen, wegen den Bildern.
Hoffe euch gefällt das Projekt :)
Wenn ihr Fragen zb. zu Patrik Hufschmid, Agile oder Florian Bäppler habt, schießt los :)

Bis dann
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tolles Konzept^^ etwas ähnliches schwebt mir für eine SG vor aber da fehlt mir noch das nötige kleingeld...
ansonsten freu ich mich auf weitere Berichte *aboniert*

Grüße, Bene
 
Endlich mehr 8-Saiter :D

Sehr interessant, und das Holz sieht ja wirklich sehr interessant aus (ich glaub, ich muss nicht näher ausführen, welches Stück Holz ich hier mein ;))
 
AND HE MADE IT! more pics now.





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Wenge is awesome.



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And this is a sample for the possible finish. i love it.
He "burned" the wood with an hot air gun, then he oiled and waxed it.



Danke für die Antworten :)
Die Kosten für das Holz halten sich aber stark in Grenzen, aber 8 Saiter Elektronik ist leider recht teuer...
Ich werde übrigens meine lieblings PU´s in der 8er Version einbauen, die Seymour Duncan Blackouts.
Zusätzlich werde ich wahrscheinlich das Graphtech GHOST System einbauen, für Akustik Gitarren sound :)
https://www.thomann.de/de/graph_tech_ghost_acoustiphonic_preampkit.htm


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Der Korpus wirkt ja arg klein im Vergleich zum Rest, schreit ja fast nach Kopflastigkeit!

Aber gefällt mir, gefällt mir gut!
(bin ja sowieso Explorer-Fan :D)
 
Gibt's hier mal wieder aktuelle Fotos?
Mich zerreißts fast vor Neugier :D
 
Neue Bilder, diesmal hat Flo sie selber hochgeladen:

New update:


I've started to shape the edges, only using hand tools and without thinking too much about it to get a quite raw result :)

This is the guitar before shaping:
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Starting to make the belly cut

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Me, working

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Mockup for the rear routing
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Und weitere Bilder vom shaping:

new pics :) :)

new rear routing, what do you think schotter?

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and the new shapings

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So for everyone now thinking "cool, I'm gonna have my RG look like that",
this is the tool to use:

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:)
 
wouuuw... sorry aber das shaping is echt hammer hart krum und schief ^^. sieht ganzschön finster aus (leider im absolut negativen sinn :redface:)

ansonsten respekt wenn du alles selbst per hand machst ;)
weiß selbst wie anstrengend und zeitaufwendig sowas is... in meim fotoalbum is ne komplett neu lackierte rg7620 ;)
 
Ich denke, bzw ich hoffe, das dass nur die groben Vorarbeiten fürs shaping waren.

Ansonsten wäres echt mies, da haste Recht...

Flo
 
Wenn die Gitarre unlackiert bleiben würde, hätte's einen gewissen Reiz :)
 
Das shaping ist mit Absicht sehr grob, siehe 1. post ;)

New update:


I've started to shape the edges, only using hand tools and without thinking too much about it to get a quite raw result :)

This is the guitar before shaping:
hpim2015.jpg


hpim2016w.jpg


Starting to make the belly cut

hpim2019.jpg


hpim2020.jpg


hpim2022.jpg




hpim2030.jpg
 
hpim2035.jpg


hpim2036a.jpg


Me, working

hpim2038.jpg


hpim2039.jpg


Mockup for the rear routing
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new rear routing, what do you think schotter?

hpim2047.jpg


and the new shapings

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hpim2053.jpg
 
It's 34°C in old Germany today...
The perfect weather to be outside and build guitars :)
I routed the pickup and electronics cavities and made the cover plate. It's only three holes, but it took me about 6 hours, including making the templates, cutting out the ghost etc. But I'm very happy with the result, the cover fits perfectly, a totally new feature of my guitar-building :D

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Battery and ghost fit in

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Iiii´ve got some news :)
package arrived:



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gold hardware rules!

Warwick poti knob
gold toggle switch+gold cab
Neutrik security jack (Amifsound, love youre inspiration.)




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And. Seymour Duncan Blackout 8 String [/QUOTE]
 
]The hardware has arrived, so I was able to continue building
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Cutting the edge of the fretboard
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The neck pickup (seymour duncan BLACKOUT 8-string
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)is already installed cause the fretboard will cover it a little. The area where the pickup is gonna sit is hollowed out a little.I've burned the area around the pu cavity before putting the pu in so it won't be damaged.
EDIT: we'll burn the whole surface of the mahagony, it's part of the concept
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Fretboard ready to be glued on:
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I almost forgot the trussrod, but it's inserted ^^
Glue...
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...and a million clamps!
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Small update:

The clamps are off, and I've started to shape the neck a little. It's really fat yet, just want to give you a hint what it's gonna look like.
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Hope you enjoy
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